a425couple
2018-02-11 16:56:08 UTC
Serious GREAT bargain and very interesting vacation.
But, you need to let go of angers of 50 years ago.
Also, frustrations of sad balance of trade issues.
I did not post this information on this newsgroup,
because I doubted anyone would be interested.
But, who knows, strange things are possible.
realm's good harvest.
dinner + night tour in Beijing, CAD40p.p.
red pavilion of nine floors which leans against the side of the hill
providing a walkway to the temple at the top of the hill. Captain's
Welcome Party.
Captain's Farewell Dinner.
developed. City tour in Jingzhou then transfer to Wuhan and rest up in
hotel.
the village for the plantation of world renowned "Longjing Dragon Well
Tea". Depart for Huangshan and transfer to hotel on arrival.
which the clouds often surround the hills. This mythical mountain
constantly changes its image due to the winds and drizzle, which is
favored by traditional Chinese painting and literature.
and boutiques are located. Then visit the bund, where you can experience
the modernity of Shanghai.
and other local authorities on the river or canal banks, stretches of
river or canal, bridges, locks or docks, SINORAMA reserves the right to
change the published itinerary or to operate part of the itinerary by
motorcoach without notice.
the supposed 5 star hotels and cruise ship.
Always plenty of bacon, sausages, scrambled eggs, hard boiled eggs,
bread, (most often pastries) generally a side cook station
where they were doing fresh fried eggs and often omelets,
along with plenty of Chinese breakfast things. (Wife loved
the interesting new tries!)
Lunches varied. On the cruise ship it was again a good
buffet. Some were fine buffets. On the internal airplane
flight it was 'old fashioned' airplane food. One day
of a real long bus ride had an interesting 'Chinese'
box lunch. The day of the long high speed train trip,
I think somebody goofed,,,,, it was a sad little 'Subway'
*tm* sandwich.
Suppers on the cruise ship were again a quite good buffet
of vast majority Chinese food, but probably some effort
to appease USAians, Canadians, and UKers.
(their attempt at spaghetti did not create a 'hit'!)
Some nights again had the quite acceptable hotel buffets.
Some were at a restaurant that were served 'family style'
and were generally ok.
But yeah,,, after two weeks of Chinese suppers, it was nice
to get home to home cooking!
I should also include about beverages.
DO NOT DRINK, or even brush teeth with tap water.
It seems we were told even natives do not allow it in mouths.
But every lodging had in the room two 18oz~ bottles of water a day,
and most had a little 'hot pot' so we could make some extra.
And, more water bottles could be easily bought for low cost.
The breakfasts all had coffee, tea, warm milk, cold milk
and fruit juices.
The restaurants served 'family style' included about a
8 oz beer, or cola or sprite.
You can view plenty of the trip highlights on youtube videos.
For example
Yangtze Sinorama Gold 8 Cruises Chongqing-Yichang -Chongqing China -
Croisiere en Chine
Trip Yangtze Sinorama Gold3 Cruise 09-09-2017
Mont Huangshan Chine ( The Yellow Mountain)
But, you need to let go of angers of 50 years ago.
Also, frustrations of sad balance of trade issues.
I did not post this information on this newsgroup,
because I doubted anyone would be interested.
But, who knows, strange things are possible.
Less than three weeks ago we were descending into China's
Beijing airport and looking out the window I was reminded of
Robert Silverberg's "The World Inside"
see = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Inside
with it's world population of 75 billion people, most housed
in 3 Kilometer high Urban Monads.
Now China has 1.4 billion, and the big housing units I saw
were not particularly each terribly oversized, but surprising
to me in the large number being identically and simultaneously
built in rows.
I had a good sci-fi book with me, and in the plenty of time
on buses, high speed trains, airplanes, and cruise ship there
really was plenty of time for reading, but the views out the
windows regularly seemed interesting, so I read little.
For those who might be interested in a good trip, we found,
and we did, a terrific bargain on a very good 14 day fully
guided tour in China.
It was only $1,199 per person
(plus about $180 per person to get Chinese Visas,
and we added two optional tours, the Shanghai Circus,
and a old fashioned Water Village marriage.)
Serious bargain, that covered airfare from most places in
US and Canada, 14 days, 13 nights in top rated hotels
or a cruise ship, & all meals except for 2.
I think, since there was almost a simultaneous to us
similar group from the UK (they flew over Russia etc.,
while we flew over the Pacific) that for UK they have
a very similar deal.
My wife originally found the deal on travel zoo newsletter
travelzoo.com , and you can also.
http://www.sinorama.ca/tourpage/index.php?id=2016_2017_chhz_15d_a_en
Day 1: Canada – stops – Beijing
Depart for Beijing on overnight international flight.
Day 2: Beijing
Arrive at the airport of Beijing, transfer to hotel.
Hotel: Beijing Lijingwan Hotel (5 stars) or similar
Day 3: Beijing (B L D)
After breakfast, visit the Tiananmen Square,
then enter the imperial-red walls of the ornate Forbidden City,
the emperor' s palace - off limits to commoners for centuries.
You will also visit the Temple of Heaven.
Think of the processions of incense-bearing priest at the Temple of
Heaven, where the emperor went to humble himself in prayer to guaranteeBeijing airport and looking out the window I was reminded of
Robert Silverberg's "The World Inside"
see = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Inside
with it's world population of 75 billion people, most housed
in 3 Kilometer high Urban Monads.
Now China has 1.4 billion, and the big housing units I saw
were not particularly each terribly oversized, but surprising
to me in the large number being identically and simultaneously
built in rows.
I had a good sci-fi book with me, and in the plenty of time
on buses, high speed trains, airplanes, and cruise ship there
really was plenty of time for reading, but the views out the
windows regularly seemed interesting, so I read little.
For those who might be interested in a good trip, we found,
and we did, a terrific bargain on a very good 14 day fully
guided tour in China.
It was only $1,199 per person
(plus about $180 per person to get Chinese Visas,
and we added two optional tours, the Shanghai Circus,
and a old fashioned Water Village marriage.)
Serious bargain, that covered airfare from most places in
US and Canada, 14 days, 13 nights in top rated hotels
or a cruise ship, & all meals except for 2.
I think, since there was almost a simultaneous to us
similar group from the UK (they flew over Russia etc.,
while we flew over the Pacific) that for UK they have
a very similar deal.
My wife originally found the deal on travel zoo newsletter
travelzoo.com , and you can also.
http://www.sinorama.ca/tourpage/index.php?id=2016_2017_chhz_15d_a_en
Day 1: Canada – stops – Beijing
Depart for Beijing on overnight international flight.
Day 2: Beijing
Arrive at the airport of Beijing, transfer to hotel.
Hotel: Beijing Lijingwan Hotel (5 stars) or similar
Day 3: Beijing (B L D)
After breakfast, visit the Tiananmen Square,
then enter the imperial-red walls of the ornate Forbidden City,
the emperor' s palace - off limits to commoners for centuries.
You will also visit the Temple of Heaven.
Think of the processions of incense-bearing priest at the Temple of
realm's good harvest.
Day 4: Beijing (B L)
Enjoy your excursion to the ancient Great Wall, originally built as
protection from the Huns and other Nomadic tribes and never completelyEnjoy your excursion to the ancient Great Wall, originally built as
dinner + night tour in Beijing, CAD40p.p.
Day 5: Beijing – Chongqing (Flight) (B L D)
After breakfast, transfer to airport for flight to Chongqing, visit a
zoo (panda) and embark on the cruise.After breakfast, transfer to airport for flight to Chongqing, visit a
5-star deluxe cruise: Sinorama Gold 3 / Gold 8
Day 6: Yangtze River Cruise – Shibaozhai (B L D)
Excursion: Shibaozhai, literally "Precious Stone Fortress" is a hill
along the bank of the Yangtze River. On the river side of the hill is aDay 6: Yangtze River Cruise – Shibaozhai (B L D)
Excursion: Shibaozhai, literally "Precious Stone Fortress" is a hill
red pavilion of nine floors which leans against the side of the hill
providing a walkway to the temple at the top of the hill. Captain's
Welcome Party.
Day 7: Yangtze River Cruise – Three Gorges (B L D)
Excursion: Embark on smaller boats to enjoy a closer encounter of the
beauty of the Three Gorges. Continue to Gorge Wu and Gorge Qutang.Excursion: Embark on smaller boats to enjoy a closer encounter of the
Day 8: Yangtze River Cruise – Three Gorges Dam (B L D)
Excursion: Three Gorges Dam – the world's largest hydroelectricity
project. Passage of the Three Gorges Dam and the 5–stage Ship Lock.Excursion: Three Gorges Dam – the world's largest hydroelectricity
Captain's Farewell Dinner.
Day 9: Yangtze River Cruise – Jingzhou – Wuhan (Coach) (B L D)
Disembark at Jingzhou, a city located on the banks of the Yangtze
River with 6000 years history where the culture of "Chu" was raised andDisembark at Jingzhou, a city located on the banks of the Yangtze
developed. City tour in Jingzhou then transfer to Wuhan and rest up in
hotel.
Hotel: Wuhan Howard Johnson Pearl Plaza Hotel (5 stars) or similar
Day 10: Wuhan – Hangzhou (High-Speed Train) (B D)
After breakfast, transfer to Hangzhou by high-speed train. Upon
arrival, transfer to hotel.Day 10: Wuhan – Hangzhou (High-Speed Train) (B D)
After breakfast, transfer to Hangzhou by high-speed train. Upon
Hotel: Hangzhou Xanadu Crown Plaza Hotel (5 stars) or similar
Day 11: Hangzhou – Huangshan (Yellow Mountain) (Coach) (B L D)
Hangzhou is well known for its beauty of natural landscape and
historic monuments. You will join a cruise on the West Lake and visitDay 11: Hangzhou – Huangshan (Yellow Mountain) (Coach) (B L D)
Hangzhou is well known for its beauty of natural landscape and
the village for the plantation of world renowned "Longjing Dragon Well
Tea". Depart for Huangshan and transfer to hotel on arrival.
Hotel: Huangshan International Hotel (5 stars) or similar
Day 12: Huangshan (B L D)
Excursion on Huangshan. The Mountain is well known for its beauty,
peculiarly-shaped granite peaks, Huangshan pine trees, and the landscapeDay 12: Huangshan (B L D)
Excursion on Huangshan. The Mountain is well known for its beauty,
which the clouds often surround the hills. This mythical mountain
constantly changes its image due to the winds and drizzle, which is
favored by traditional Chinese painting and literature.
Day 13: Huangshan – Shanghai (Coach) (B L)
After breakfast, transfer to Shanghai by coach. Upon arrival,
transfer to hotel.After breakfast, transfer to Shanghai by coach. Upon arrival,
Optional tour (approximately 4.5 hours): dinner + night tour in
Shanghai, CAD40p.p.Hotel: Wyndham Bund East Shanghai (5 stars) or similar
Day 14: Shanghai (B L)
First visits the Shanghai Museum (Closed on Mondays), then you will
have free time for shopping at Nanjing Road where plenty of large storesDay 14: Shanghai (B L)
First visits the Shanghai Museum (Closed on Mondays), then you will
and boutiques are located. Then visit the bund, where you can experience
the modernity of Shanghai.
Optional tour: dinner + an exciting Acrobatics Show CAD40p.p.
Day 15: Shanghai – stops – Canada (B)
After breakfast, transfer to airport for flights back to your sweet
home. End of trip.Day 15: Shanghai – stops – Canada (B)
After breakfast, transfer to airport for flights back to your sweet
* Airport meet & greet transfers included when the whole tour package
is purchased from Sinorama.* For cruise package, in the event of water level problems on
stretches of river, repair or maintenance work carried out by the riverand other local authorities on the river or canal banks, stretches of
river or canal, bridges, locks or docks, SINORAMA reserves the right to
change the published itinerary or to operate part of the itinerary by
motorcoach without notice.
* Highlight features are subject to change according to final itinerary.
Hmm, they do not mention the visits / tours / stops at -
Beijing Pearl Market,
Jade Factory,
Cloisonne Factory,
Visit of Chanqan Automobile Technology Exhibition
(Had 3D printing! as well as Changan E301 concept sports coupe),
Tea Plantation,
Silk factory,
Silk Embroidery Art Gallery
- yes, plenty of chances to buy stuff,,, but no pressure!
From another group, someone askedHmm, they do not mention the visits / tours / stops at -
Beijing Pearl Market,
Jade Factory,
Cloisonne Factory,
Visit of Chanqan Automobile Technology Exhibition
(Had 3D printing! as well as Changan E301 concept sports coupe),
Tea Plantation,
Silk factory,
Silk Embroidery Art Gallery
- yes, plenty of chances to buy stuff,,, but no pressure!
Now for the important question--so how was the food?
The breakfasts were all quite good. Buffets available inthe supposed 5 star hotels and cruise ship.
Always plenty of bacon, sausages, scrambled eggs, hard boiled eggs,
bread, (most often pastries) generally a side cook station
where they were doing fresh fried eggs and often omelets,
along with plenty of Chinese breakfast things. (Wife loved
the interesting new tries!)
Lunches varied. On the cruise ship it was again a good
buffet. Some were fine buffets. On the internal airplane
flight it was 'old fashioned' airplane food. One day
of a real long bus ride had an interesting 'Chinese'
box lunch. The day of the long high speed train trip,
I think somebody goofed,,,,, it was a sad little 'Subway'
*tm* sandwich.
Suppers on the cruise ship were again a quite good buffet
of vast majority Chinese food, but probably some effort
to appease USAians, Canadians, and UKers.
(their attempt at spaghetti did not create a 'hit'!)
Some nights again had the quite acceptable hotel buffets.
Some were at a restaurant that were served 'family style'
and were generally ok.
But yeah,,, after two weeks of Chinese suppers, it was nice
to get home to home cooking!
DO NOT DRINK, or even brush teeth with tap water.
It seems we were told even natives do not allow it in mouths.
But every lodging had in the room two 18oz~ bottles of water a day,
and most had a little 'hot pot' so we could make some extra.
And, more water bottles could be easily bought for low cost.
The breakfasts all had coffee, tea, warm milk, cold milk
and fruit juices.
The restaurants served 'family style' included about a
8 oz beer, or cola or sprite.
You can view plenty of the trip highlights on youtube videos.
For example
Yangtze Sinorama Gold 8 Cruises Chongqing-Yichang -Chongqing China -
Croisiere en Chine
Trip Yangtze Sinorama Gold3 Cruise 09-09-2017
Mont Huangshan Chine ( The Yellow Mountain)